RP Issues/Problems

An RP is a activity that many people may come together to participate in to express their individual ideas and have fun together as a group. A great way to escape from life, it allows us to escape the stress and annoyances of everyday life. However, certain occurrences may lead to the unraveling of the plot of the RP and the fun, upsetting people in many different ways, cause them to lose interest, and so on. Also, the RP?ers taking place may become angry and say something they may regret later. The main rule to a RP is to remember one thing; The RP is for fun, and is a place to cut loose and enjoy ourselves.

In this thread, Kimmy and I have decided to point out the individual flaws of all major RP?ers in the PMDS RP and state them, including ourselves . Below the list is a description of each flaw in further detail.

EVERYBODY : Stories are not stretched out to other RP?ers
Waffersforever - Gets carried away with romance at times, Needs more widespread interaction between other characters, tends to RP alone.
Axionas - Doesn?t watch what he posts at times and gets carried away by accident, let?s personal/outside feelings affect his style of RPing
Cheat holder - inappropriate topics at times
Dark Breloom - (Inactive, so flaws may not be accurate.) inappropriate topics at times
DoomDragon12 - Focuses on romance too much for the topic of the RP, lets personal/outside feelings affect his style of RPing.
Forgoten_Scars - Believes when he does something it?s correct but when others do it he thinks it?s wrong, may get upset if something doesn?t go according to plan, tries to gain control of a situation.
Glitchmaster117 - (Not active enough to point out flaws)
kimmy456 - Tends to RP alone, gets carried away with romance at times, emotions affect her RP posting style
Ninetailed Fox - Characters seem to focus on one thing, repetition of simple posts, may have let personal/outside feelings affect her style of RPing, confinidence booster
Rio222 - inappropriate topics at times
skymin - (Not active enough in RP so flaws may not be accurate.)Confinidence booster,
Symmetry - Posts are hard to catch onto/understand
Ziggoratt999 - Believes when he does something it?s correct but when others do it he thinks it?s wrong, may get upset if something doesn?t go according to plan and try to change it, negative topics(Ex: Death, pain, suffering), let?s emotions interfere with posting, tries to gain control of a situation
Aquablade11 - Gets carried away with romance, negativity topics, characters seem to focus on one thing
Nightmare2 - needs widespread interaction between other characters
Glaceon - Characters focus on one thing, emotions may affect the Rp style, needs more widespread interaction between other characters, tends to RP alone.
Mousekid1404 - Rushes romances, characters seem to have to have a romancer.

• -Stories are not stretched out to other RP?ers-
  
Sometimes, when a story is created, we create the plan for the story in such a way that only certain people may participate in it. To correct this flaw, the planner should try to involve as many people as possible. That way, everyone can feel like they can be a part of it

• -Gets carried away with romance at times-
  
When romance comes into play in the RP, people can be carried away in the rush of the event and get into the love too much. When this does occur, it can become a sole core of interest, causing one to abandon everybody else to focus on this one topic. To correct this particular flaw, the one focusing on this subject should try to limit how much their characters interact with the loved one. This will help them join the others and have more fun.

• -Needs more widespread interaction between other characters-
  
Easily explained in the title of this flaw, this basically means that the RP?er should have their characters interact with other characters so that they will not get into the rut of spending time with the same characters every single day. This can be fixed if the RP?er has their characters go interact with others so that more stories may become available, and so that RP?ing isn?t the same every single day.

• -Tends to RP alone-
  
At times, the RP?er may start posting with their characters interacting with the same RP?ers characters, and go on for quite a while, even sometimes coming up with a story in the process. This flaw is fixed easily by trying to limit how often one RP?s alone and interact with other characters.

• -Accidentally gets carried away with what is posted at times ?
  
Depending on the mood of an RP?er, one may not think about what they are posting at times. Something that may have happened to us all, this flaw may be one of the easiest to fix. Before a post is made, the poster should re-read the post, and correct it if it may offend a person/other people.

• -Let?s outside feelings/emotions affect style of RP?ing-
  
A outside event may lead an RP?er to change their posting style out of depression, anger, or frustration. A way to help this is to calm down and take a break.

• -Inappropriate topics-
  
The subject of actions and talking shouldn?t involve vulgar subjects (Ex. Uses of language, sexual matters, and so on). This can be helped by telling yourself to cut back on the said topics so as to not dampen the mood of the RP.

• -Characters seem to focus on one thing-
  
This means the RP?ers characters seem to be doing the same thing every day. They may change their plot of course at times, but its rare when it happens. This can be solved by changing things up, not all at once, but gradually getting a character to do something besides ?Walking around?,?Eating berries? and so on.

• -Confidence Booster-
  
The RP?er hardly makes storylines for others to join in but rather follows others in their stories. A way to help solve this is to think outside the box; Try an idea that may appeal to others and hasn?t been done yet.

• -Posts are hard to catch onto/understand-
  
Basically, this means that the RP?ers posts are odd in structure and filling; they make no sense at times and can be confusing. This easily fixed flaw can be treated by posting in a way that others will understand them.

• -Believes when something is done, its right but when another does it, it isn?t-
  
When one commits an action that is ?okay? to them but somebody else does it later, the person who did it before citizens the person who just did it for doing it. This can be solved by remembering to not get mad when somebody does the same as you did before. That person might be thinking,?They did it, why can?t I??

• -Gets upset when something doesn?t go to according to plan-
  
An Rp?er may get upset when a plan they have carefully and thoroughly thought out doesn?t go exactly the way they want it to. This can be remedied by remembering this simple fact: It is an RP, things will always go differently because other RP?ers may come in with an idea that could make the story come out with a completely different outcome.

• -Negative Topics-
  
The topic of death, pain, suffering and others like it should not be encountered in a RP?ers posting often. However, if somebody does post material similar to this often, a way to correct this flaw is to try and stay away from these subjects; They are not the most pleasant to think about.

If you so wish to, you may point out flaws that we have not covered and explain them in detail. From there, Kimmy and I will review them, and then add them to the list if they are legitimate.

This thread is posted for the following 2 reasons:
1)This is NOT a hate thread! We created this thread to try and help others with their individual RP imperfections.
2)We want you, the readers, to post your opinions on the listed flaws.

If this thread turns into a hate fest of people getting into fights about the listed, then their posts could be subject to deletion, or the closing of the thread.


« Last edited by Waffersforever on 25th May 2011 »

Will, I'm getting mixed views on this thread. Yes, I do approve of it because it's something I think we've really needed to discuss in the past. Yes, I approve it because it seems this would be the only way we could draw the individual role players into a beneficial discussion in regards to the styles of role playing they adopt and post content therein. However, I do not approve of it because, and trust me when I say this, cause nothing but an upheaval of negative emotions that will start some form of drama, be it mild or notable. I do not approve of this thread because it's gotten rid of another one of importance on the team that can not be replaced until this one is deleted and the system is put in to the teams and clans section of the site that allows for transition of one thread to a different location on the team. One could expect a wait of several months before said system comes into play.

Regarding your first post in this topic, I feel you've hit most of the major points and flaws of the role players currently active in PMDS. I hope that all future posts can take this lightly and see it as what it truly is; Constructive criticism. You did miss one subject that should be tied to my name, however, and it should go by a different name. Your phrase 'Tends to RP alone' actually has a name; Ego Tripping, and it's enforced in all role play rules as to avoid spam. I say I have this problem because I often times refuse to go to someone first and instead have them come to me with hopes of an interesting story soon to take place. Given the other term that seems to be strapped to my name, I can only feel that you're implying this as a result of what's happened over the past two days; The eating of bodies and/or souls in the role play. Seeing as this thread is what it is, I'm going to attempt to clear things up on this subject and assure that it will not happen in the way I find most appalling again.

As you all know, I find life to be one of the most sacred things currently existing in our world. I can't stand to see something hurt in any way, though I try to play it off in real life. Saying that life is sacred, one can only come to believe that ending something such as life can be an evil/sinful act. In the role play, you'll notice that all of my characters who have killed did it for means to be or act in an evil manner. Rai, would be my most common reference. She kills a lot in the role play. Why? Because it boosts her evil side and keeps true to what her nature really is. What I cannot stand is when someone demoralizes the act of killing and push it off as a needed in the role play. There's no need for that, and I have a feeling some of it is rooted deep in vorarephilia when posted in the role play.

Common arguments against what has been said:

They're animals, it's what they need to do - No, this is a false statement. What I consider to be an animal is a living being who can no more think out something and solve their problems than I can reach the moon with a back scratcher. If something can see the world around it, understand it clearly, work out problems as we as humans do, and interact with others in even the slightest of civil manners, then I find that they're more than an animal, and something that deserves to live regardless of what others think. When intelligence is along the same levels as others, I find it cannibalism to end the life of a living, thinking creature just because of the concept of food.

It's no worse than what you would see in Animal Planet - True, but that's probably one of the reasons I don't watch the Animal Planet. it's a needed out in nature, not a needed here. I would kindly remind you that this is a web site for people of 13 years of age to 18/21. None of them need to see or read about death and eating other if it's not needed. I'm going to say this one time, and one time only: If it doesn't aid in the development of your character as an evil person, and is felt it's NEEDED to be done on a frequent basis, then you can take your mentalities and toss them right out of the door. Keep that cannibalism crap out of T&C, it's not needed.

The body was already dead, they didn't kill it - A moot point, really. The act of devouring one that rivals intelligence to ones self is still an immoral act that has no needed place in the role play. If I have to remind everyone, this is a Pokemon role play. Though we have changed a lot of things from the original games, that is one I would hope we don't. They never ate meat in those games, only berries. Even if they did mention hunting in the games, I would hope that it's not brought here.

It's just a role play - Correct in every imaginable way. However, I would like to stress the fact that I see everything on a more realistic level. I can actually imagine what's going on in my head rather than just see it as words on a page. Be it real of fake, I would rather enjoy it if no one posted something that could be found distasteful and may, in any way, drive people from a role play just because of one's personal need to do something distasteful.

To sum up this section, I'm simply going to say this; You respect my wishes and I'll respect yours. I can not express how deep my loathing goes for the action of eating others in the role play. It's to the point where any action of it makes me physically ill and often times causes me to vomit.

One small detail that I've noticed on two people; Symmetry and Ninetailed Fox. Symmetry has no problem at all coming up with understandable plots, or at least from what I've seen in her recent posts. I can easily follow anything she does, reason why I enjoy the rare moments I get to role play with her so much. Ninetailed Fox, though her posts may be short, is slowly getting better. All she needs is the occasional push and she'll show us all what she's truly capable of. Something that, might I add, rivals even my own style of role playing.

Having all this said, I wish to state the fact that I'm willing to help anyone on any of their problems. I may not be the best at role playing, but I believe that I could offer some assistance to everyone. Will, I'm especially directing this towards you. I almost always have a character open that would be willing to create a story with yours and help you understand what's going on in the event that you've missed too much. I do hope future posts in this thread will not be unpleasant.

« Last edited by Forgoten_Scars on 29th Aug 2010 »

Derek, thank you for your above post. If you had looked in the description of the Rp itself, however, you'd have seen that I moved the RP cast to the first page on the first post. As well, I have saved the list on my computer, so it isn't lost. I wasn't about to make us have to re-do the Cast.

I can understand the following statement:

Derek said:

I can not express how deep my loathing goes for the action of eating others in the role play. It's to the point where any action of it makes me physically ill and often times causes me to vomit.

Yes, the action of stealing ones soul for a snack and then devouring their bodies is a tender subject that shouldn't have been brought into a RP such as this one. But we learn from past mistakes, and build on them. If this doesn't come up again, the more the merrier, we don't have to worry about the uprising of your meals and others as well. Even though the Pokemon always ate berries, I do remember reading in the Pokedex entries of the games and, excuse me but I can't remember exactly how many, a bit of them have something in their entries relating to hunting. The entries mention they can catch prey. I believe Umbreon is an example of one.

I don't wish to go on and on with another long post right now, but I will say this. About Symmetry's stated flaw in the list, I was talking more about the past at the moment, but you and I both know how crazy some of Gabby's posts can be, and they often throw me off. I have noticed how this has cut down, and I'm glad that she is doing well with said issue. For Z, yes, she is getting better, and just like Gabby, I'm happy that she is making an increasingly successful attempt to change.

Now, that I've had my say, I look forward to other posts in this thread so that we may help everybody.

I completely agree with the summary of myself, and freely admit that I could be much better. Lately, I've just been trying to work myself back into the flow of the Rp before coming up with anything new or different, and that's pushed many of the ideas i've had away. If it helps any, I will be creating a mission some time this week, as i think it's time I stop procrastinating and/or being such a follower.
Thee's not much else for me to say, as I still often have trouble coming up with some things on my own and voicing my full opinion.

i think mine was pretty lame actually. i always thought i had a lot more porblems that just romance. and yes, i admit i focus on that a lot, but it gives me somethign to do and its what i am good at.
the one thing i don't get is the 'letting outside feelings affect style of rp'? i dont get it. :/

I'm glad this was posted. It will help everyone improve their Rping Skills.

I do agree what mine said.



What I'm doing now is if I get "angered' or 'Upset'. I'll get of SC to cool down. To prevent my change in Rp style and making things get worse,



I admit, before I would type things out and then just post them before quickly clicking the post button.I don't want a repeat of what happened the other day. So I've changed that, I have stopped, checked what I was posting, and re-read everything to make sure there are appropriate things.


Overall, this thread was a good idea. I'm glad you and Kimmy put this up Will. It will help me and hopefully the others a bunch.



« Last edited by Axionas on 29th Aug 2010 »

Although the other flaws are true (considering the fact that I'm constantly lost and inactive in PMDS) I will say that I don't let emotions affect my rp style as I used to in the past. Furthermore, the only emotion that changed my rp style (anger) I no longer display on SC. If I am angry, I'll stay off of SC to cool off rather than venting my anger in an rp or on IM. The underlined portion 'may' says enough.

Posts are hard to catch onto/understand

*Insert halfassed disagreement here*
Not in the mood to think, though I can't say it's been much of a problem lately, tbqh. :/

My style of storytelling is very...very...slow, anyway. I have stories planned out for two of my characters atm, although it doesn't seem like it. Why? I'm planning to have my characters be a bit more well-known so that people actually ~care~ about said character. Common sense and all that, yes.

Eh, there's gotta be something else I'm doing wrong, really. Although even if there isn't, I'm never pleased with anything I do anyway. Because there's ~always~ gonna be someone better. :s

Being honest, I often times feel overshadowed by some of you. I mean, look at you people. Will and Garret are always concocting something fantastic out of nowhere, it seems like, and so is Derek, albeit at a slower pace. And here I am, trudging along with so little to offer. I might be being a little hard on myself, but I don't really think so.

What I'm not liking here is the way Will and I's characters very rarely seem to interact anymore. :<

Meh, my two cents anyway.

besides the fact that im inappropriate, id really liek to discuss another matter.

people dont include other characters.

thats why it's always nick and kimmy rping, or garret and derek rping, or gabby and derek rping.

really, if derek and garret were in the middle of a story, and glai is playing as some character and wants to join into the plot, you guys act like he didnt even talk to you.

please, dont give this "but in the event thread it says everyone is welcome" bullshit, because anyone can see that it's NOT true. you dont know how many times ive seen people try to interact with other characters and nothing happens, the characters in the plot just continue.

thats why kimmy and glai and all those other people rp ALONE, because you guys arent including them.

Dark Breloom said:

besides the fact that im inappropriate, id really liek to discuss another matter.

people dont include other characters.

thats why it's always nick and kimmy rping, or garret and derek rping, or gabby and derek rping.

really, if derek and garret were in the middle of a story, and glai is playing as some character and wants to join into the plot, you guys act like he didnt even talk to you.

please, dont give this "but in the event thread it says everyone is welcome" bull****, because anyone can see that it's NOT true. you dont know how many times ive seen people try to interact with other characters and nothing happens, the characters in the plot just continue.

thats why kimmy and glai and all those other people rp ALONE, because you guys arent including them.

That's not necessarily true in my case. I mostly rp alone in PMDS because 1) I'm not very active in the rp for certain reasons and 2) I get lost in what is going on in the rp, whether it be Derek or Garret or anyone else who's doing something in particular. =/

Ah, thanks for bringing this to my attention Derek. I just want to say a few things regarding this thread's content and then I'm out:

- The following issues are to be reported here:

"Doesn’t watch what he posts at times and gets carried away by accident"
" inappropriate topics at times "

The report thread hasn't been getting much action lately, and I know that's not because everyone here is perfect. The above two are 9/10 times unacceptable on this site, and will be delt with.

And as a last reminder; Symmetry, Forgoten_Scars, Ninetails, their word is law, even in the RPs. Just as the FF&RP moderators in the forums retain full control over every RP. List Derek as 'controlling' all you like, if it has anything to do with rules/regulations, you're required to listen. If he believes the RP is going in a bad direction, he may change it, but must blatantly state when he's using his authority. Same goes with Symmetry, Ninetails, etc.

Friendly reminder done, cheers all.

« Last edited by qwertyuio on 1st Sep 2010 »

Qwert, with all due respect, when I list Derek as controlling, I didn't say I didn't want to listen. I merely mean that when something in the Role Play doesn't go according to plan or so on, he tries to get it to flow the way he wants it to go, and sometimes it messes up some of the plans others have, same with Garret.

And I'm aware that the T&C mod's word are law, thanks for reminding me of something that I'm sure that we all know.

Waffersforever said:

Qwert, with all due respect, when I list Derek as controlling, I didn't say I didn't want to listen. I merely mean that when something in the Role Play doesn't go according to plan or so on, he tries to get it to flow the way he wants it to go, and sometimes it messes up some of the plans others have, same with Garret.

And I'm aware that the T&C mod's word are law, thanks for reminding me of something that I'm sure that we all know.

Forgoten_Scars: "Oi, thanks for the support Filip. I was really getting annoyed with the subjects in the Rp"

This in itself tells me the reminder was necessary for sure. Not specifically for you or any other person, but rather the general T&C population. I chose this team specifically because it has this thread and is number 1. I'm sure it'll spread to other teams.

I rarely look through your guys'RPs, because it's just plain too much. I still support the mod team here though, as their my only connection to any sort of effective peace keeping.

I'm well aware chances are you didn't mean "moderator-like controlling" when you said "controlling", I just want to be sure he, or any other T&C mod, isn't being blown off when he's not supposed to be. If you think any of the T&C mods abuse their ability to modify an RP in whatever way they like, then post a complaint in the moderator action report thread in the HQ, and I'll review it. Otherwise, they can do whatever they like, tbh. :p

The thing with RPs is that you can't set up an in-stone system as to how they should be moderated because it's a case-by-case deal, so the T&C mods need a lot of leeway because of it. If Garret puts things down a path Derek thinks doesn't work and damages the overall quality of any SC provided services, he may change it. Derek can't force his opinion as law, but he can do so with the well being of the RP in mind.

...It's a tricky system. For now, like I said, it only serves as a reminder. If you guys have any problems, report them and I'll get to it. (Would be lovely if another smod+ was active here but yeah...)

To be honest, the only person I was having trouble with was Ninetailed Fox over IM. Here's the situation as it happened a few days ago, and eventually started all of this. In the Role Play, Ninetailed Fox and Axionas were posting things such as eating other Pokemon and devouring their souls. I had a problem with this, so I went to chat and posted the following.

Forgoten_Scars said:

Guys, I'm sorry but I can't even be here. I don't know what it is but I can't stand to even read what Z and Eli are doing in the Rp. It makes me physically sick to my stomach. I'm going for a few hours.

About an hour later, I came back and posted another message in chat.

Forgoten_Scars said:

I don't believe I've been this angered in quite some time. Eli, I'm to the point of wanting to permanently ban you from this team and assuring you'll never step foot here again. I can not express how deep my loathing goes for eating others and their souls in the Rp. You and Z have ran me, Kimmy, and nearly Garret off. Stop it or I assure you, I will. I've long since lost my respect for the both of you over this.

Z (8/28/2010 4:14:59 PM): I read all of the chat from last night yoiu threaten to ban him when you have no right to.

forgotenscars (8/28/2010 4:16:12 PM): Team chiefs reserve all right to ban, demote, and remove members. I can do whatever I please. And I'm going to say the same thing I said to Kimmy. Pay attention to my post. I said I wanted to, not that I would. I care far too much about what others want to outright ban someone for personal reasons. If I did, I would just make others upset.

Z (8/28/2010 4:18:16 PM): will made that team not you, yes you run it but its not under your name.

forgotenscars (8/28/2010 4:18:36 PM): I have the pass, I'm team chief. Doesn't matter one bit who made it.

And this is where the real problems with power and what can and can't be done started. =/

That's all I needed. Will and I are too close to disagree with each other over anything. We respect each other decisions. However, I've spread the co leader ability out to most of the active members here, even though they don't have the account. I guess Z disagreeing would neutralize my decisions under the terms I've set up for the team.

Forgoten_Scars said:

To be honest, the only person I was having trouble with was Ninetailed Fox over IM. Here's the situation as it happened a few days ago, and eventually started all of this. In the Role Play, Ninetailed Fox and Axionas were posting things such as eating other Pokemon and devouring their souls. I had a problem with this, so I went to chat and posted the following.

Forgoten_Scars said:

Guys, I'm sorry but I can't even be here. I don't know what it is but I can't stand to even read what Z and Eli are doing in the Rp. It makes me physically sick to my stomach. I'm going for a few hours.

Derek, I'm completely sorry. I did not see this post. And If I had, I would have stopped immediately. You know I would not continue something that made someone else uncomfortable, let alone physically ill. I regret not looking at the post. And I should have looked at the chat more. This is why I was confused when you scolded me. I thought I deserved more of a warning. But I missed the post, so once again. I'm apologize.


« Last edited by Axionas on 1st Sep 2010 »

Ah, it's been a while since I've seen a topic like this.

First of all, the RP is a place to do things you can't do in real life. Like start a relationship in minutes, have massive battles, construct great structures, be awesome, and be better than everyone else.

And be better than everyone else. And therein lies the problem.

People like being the best. In real life, this is nearly impossible. However, in an RP, why not? Be the best, have beaten all the toughest guys in the world at once whilst asleep. Why not? It's just text separating you and pure power. So go and be the best!

However, an RP has multiple people. Some are fine with just lagging behind, being normal, but if more than one 'I'm the best' person comes along, bang! Friction. Crappy RPing. Fail.

Also relationships can go by really fast. You try and have a relationship that easily. It's impossible. Fact. However, in an RP, why not? Let's have a relationship, it can turn to sex instantly and you can pretend this would happen to you in real life and be happy. Why not?


The problem with this RP is people. You're all only human. Fact. No-one is more than that. People will let their emotions affect themselves. All will want revenge, want awesome things, want to be the best. We're human, and this us how we work. You can never fix this and you'd be stupid to try. Mind you, you're only human, so what else can you expect? Who cares if you make someone else unhappy, you feel much better! Who cares about them?

This is human behavior. Please stop trying to make humans more than that. Although we do have some really great humans here, that is all we will ever be. We're already coming up on being the best of humanity. Don't force it. Just let these brilliant humans be the best they can be. This isn't something that can be solved.

There is no tl;dr - that's too human.

Cam, I feel you've been away for far too long. We've changed, that's for sure. We're no longer the childish acting people we once were. We're people who act as if we have a brain and just get along. I've noticed that you've mentioned relationships several times in your post. In this change, we've found that relationships have near no place in the role play anymore, along with several other things.

Relationships; We've gotten to the point where everyone was near sick of them, as they're the start of drama and detract from the main focuses of the role play. This role play was started, as Pokemon itself was, for action and adventure, not role playing love. We've realized that romance is the exact opposite of adventure, so the relationships have either disappeared or come to a point where they're rarely even mentioned anymore. What I've said to this before is simple; You can have a relationship, but you best not let it affect the overall experience of not only yourself, but others in the role play. Don't seclude yourself to only interacting with one other character due to the relation that one character shares with one of yours. On the same note, don't feel that your character must be with that other character for them to have purpose in the role play. Spread people out, interact with everyone and forget about love while you're here.

Being number one; Well, this subject would have a standing about a year ago, before you left. Things have changed though. As you may have heard, many complain about the role play dying due to the lack of options regarding the stories told in it. This is only half true. While it may be hard to find them, there are untold untapped stories still lying deep in the minds of everyone, just waiting to be put into the role play. People these days want to put in minimal effort and just follow, and that's the exact reason why things are in a state of downfall, heading towards a sure death. The only people willing to put effort and stories into the role play anymore are myself and Will, possibly Garret too a good 30 - 40 percent of the time. Will and I are constantly struggling to make things up, ensuring that everyone will enjoy their stay in the role plays and want to come back for more. What will everyone else do? Follow, make short posts, and hope they'll have everything done for them in the role play with minimal effort on their parts. THIS, this in itself is a death to the role play. Say Will and I didn't feel like posting much that day or coming up with stories. Do you know what would happen to the role play? It would be Kimmy time all around; a point were we all sit around, looking up, then down, and smiling at a passing butterfly before having our characters bury their heads in their crotch for some personal licking time with happy jim or jane. Number one isn't our problem, it's following without any clear goal in mind and following the leader without any input to the role play other than a higher post count.

Emotions; I can be the fist to say I've not let my emotions effect my choices on the site in a long time. The parts I've quoted above are the only times I've ever gotten close to letting how I feel affect how I do things here on the site. Aside from that, I try my hardest to stay happy and positive all the time. Revenge? No, nothing good will ever come from that. Leave people, be it real or role play, as they are and just try to get along. Emotions will only really come into play if they somehow affect the role play in a positive manner, as judged by the poster.

Too human; I've yet to understand what you mean by this, really. All I can gather is you're saying we're too realistic in the role play? If so, then no. I do like a certain amount of realism in the role play, but I don't think we've gone to either side of the reality border; Too real or too fake. Until I understand exactly what you meant, I can't really elaborate on this part of your post.

Now, as for Axionas' post, I can only say this; Take a chill pill son. As long as you don't start doing anything of that manner again, then you're fine. There's no reason to apologize for what's long gone in the past, and mainly forgotten about.

Heres a big problem. The good guys doing pointless killing and enjoying it. Which has been happening in the rp today which makes it even worse.