The Psychiatric Ward

forgotenscars: Sorry, I was driving home from church. What were you saying?
Nick: >w> that im-stuck- in church
forgotenscars: So?
Nick: i dont enjoy church.
forgotenscars: Why not?
Nick: im not a religious dragon. :p
forgotenscars: That's.... unfortunate...
Nick: dont get me wrong, i dont belive in evolution. at all.
Nick: i just dont think God cares too much about our lives
forgotenscars: Now why would you say that?
Nick: because in general humans are terrible people. we almost never follows his rules and we're greedy and sefish. why would he waste his time on us?
Nick: he could just go and try again somewhere else.
Nick: thats just what i think.
Nick: what do you think?
forgotenscars: I think you're not taking love into account. If you had children, and they messed up, would you disown them? I personally wouldn't.
Nick: of course not. but what if they kept doing it? every single day of their lives, basically.
forgotenscars: Only Agape love could overcome that. There is a punishment to be paid though. Life is a test. If you fail to take your face out of the dirt and look up towards the light, eternal darkess is all you'll ever see. Hell awaits those who fail to take action on their own.
Nick: so the children starving i nAfrica, who cant help themselves, go to hell?
forgotenscars: Have you ever heard of the age of acountability?
Nick: no?
forgotenscars: It's what saves the young and mentally ill from hell. God would never send anyone to hell unless they were at a point in their life where they could participate in the test. If you're too young to know what God really is, you go to heaven. "Jesus loves the little children. All the children of the world."
Nick: fair enough. but why should htey have to suffer at all, becuase people are greedy? still doesnt seem right.
forgotenscars: Ha. I wondered the same thing for a while. Do you recall saying that we're all evil to some degree?
Nick: not especially but im sure ive said it. i know im really a terrible person, too. >w> i dont share my stuff, when i could sell it and give it to someone who needed it.
Nick: i do lots of things i know are wrong
forgotenscars: When God casted Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, he turned to Adam and said only a few words.
forgotenscars: %u201CCursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.%u201D
forgotenscars: What I've grown to accept: Cursed is the man who's heart lives in turmoil, yet body lives in paradise, for he will never know anything is wrong with the world.
Nick: okay..
forgotenscars: If you don't suffer, how will you know anything's wrong with this world?
Nick: all right? im just thinking about that one, sorry.
forgotenscars: take your time. ^_^ I just wanted to discuss this all with you.
Nick: well i guess that makes sense. but honestly, my own experiances left me kinda angry with God
Nick: >w> its stupid and unreasonable but thats how it is
forgotenscars: What happened?
Nick: my whole life i've been teased and taunted in school, my parents act like they would rather have only had two kids instea of three
Nick: etc etc
forgotenscars: Sounds like the evil inside everyone's heart rather than God. Just my observation.
forgotenscars: You feel abandoned, don't you?
Nick: of course i do.
forgotenscars: I really wish there was something I could say to help, but there really isn't. This is something you'll have to overcome yourself.
Nick: i have, or at least i think so. i only trust a few people and i do htings for myself. i dont rely o nothers.
forgotenscars: Hopefully things will improve with time. Just don't be mad at God. I know it may seem like he's abandoned you or put you in the worst possible position, but in reality, this is just your test. Some of us have harder tests than others.
Nick: and what happens if i pass the test? >w>
forgotenscars: Isn't that much obvious? There are only two possible outcomes to life.
Nick: fine. but what if i cant do it? is that my fault or his?
forgotenscars: Yours. The test is simpler than you think. It just takes a little faith, and the acceptance that you aren't alone in this world. If you trust him, you pass no matter what life throws at you.
Nick: well maybe im just not old enough to do that. i dont put my faith in anyone but myself.
forgotenscars: If you're old enough to say that, you've passed the age of accountability.
forgotenscars: Give it time Nick. Just know that you never know when the end is going to come. You could hit your Game Over screen at any moment, so it's best to be prepared for what's to come.
Nick: i know that much. >w> but frankly, sooner is better than later. im sick of looking around and seeing misery everywhere, and there nothing i can do.
forgotenscars: We all are.
Nick: then why doesnt it change?
forgotenscars: It's a test, remember?
Nick: then its a stupid test.
forgotenscars: Blame Adam and Eve. They're the ones who messed up and made us go through this. =/
Nick: he -knew- they were oging to do it though! >w>
Nick: yet he still let them do it, instead of helping. free will or not, tha seems stupid to me
forgotenscars: Might be stupid to us, but not to him. No-one can really say what his plans are.
Nick: just my opinion
forgotenscars: And I agree with it, to a degree.
Nick: and another thing: i've put my faith in God before and got nothing but crap out of it. its not lik i asked for big things. my family to be happy, me to be a better person, etc
forgotenscars: Ha. And who's fault do you think that is?
Nick: this was when i was little. >w>
Nick: and i did try to be better, btw.
forgotenscars: Nick, hold up.
Nick: uhuh?
forgotenscars: Say you're stuck in the desert for the next 5 days. There are 10 bottles of water on the ground in total. On your side of the fence, you have 5. Which are you going to fight harder to get? The ones you already have, or the ones you could have if you get through the gate?
forgotenscars: Thinking that if you get the other 5, you get to keep all 10
Nick: is there anyone else there?
forgotenscars: Nope. Just you.
Nick: well then i would get all of them. >w>
forgotenscars: You would want to go after those other 5?
Nick: well i mean,if i need them to survive, yeah
Nick: i dont get it.
forgotenscars: The devil plays the same game. Christians get hit hard by all forms of temptation and all around ****. The devil isn't going to work that hard to beat down what's already his. He's going to come after the christians in hopes of them giving up and coming to hell with him as well.
Nick: ..okay, but i still dont get it..
forgotenscars: You're the bottle of water, Nick. You once were on the other side of the fence, but you gave up, and he got you.
Nick: okay, i mstil lconfused, sorry. >>
forgotenscars: You went through a lot of crap when you were young and trusting God because the devil wanted you to give up. He put everything in your way to try to stop you. Seems like it worked.
Nick: so because he did things and God didnt i failed? >w> how is that fair?
forgotenscars: You're the one who gave up.
Nick: what else could i do? i wasnt old enough to do much else.
Nick: if the same crap happened today i would be fine.
forgotenscars: But you aren't. That pencil is still there. You could continue with the test at eventually complete it, but you won't. =/
Nick: why wont i? seriously, tell me. >w>
forgotenscars: You're afraid of the hardship that comes with the test.
Nick: i could handle it. >w>
forgotenscars: Then why don't you?
Nick: because i have no idea what im supposed to do?
forgotenscars: "I trust God with my life, and want to live with him in heaven when I die"
forgotenscars: Say it.
Nick: i would be lying.
forgotenscars: *Shrugs.* It's up to you. Saying it won't do much. You don't pass the test until you mean it.
Nick: thats the problem though. i odnt have any reason to belive -why- i should trust god.
Nick: i've seen nothing that convinces me
forgotenscars: Then it's up to you to find reason. No-one can do it for you.
Nick: i realize that. but i cant do it by myself.
forgotenscars: Then you should know what awaits you.
Nick: oh boy, eterna suffering. >w> so far thats all ive got anyways.
forgotenscars: Tell me when you have about an hour to watch a YouTube video.
Nick: why, what is it?
forgotenscars: It's a video of a book.
Nick: all right, and what is it about?
forgotenscars: 23 minutes in hell.
Nick: ._. boy, that sounds fun
forgotenscars: Actually, now that I think of it, I re-created the main part of the book in PMDS. I just turned the main character into Sam. Instead of "he", I put "she".
forgotenscars: Not many changes at all.
Nick: i read that
forgotenscars: That's basically it.
Nick: oh, awesome. >w> it wasnt disturbing enough the first time
forgotenscars: Might as well get used to it. As of now, that's what you're heading towards. Only it isn't 23 minutes. There really isn't a stop to it. Time is eternal, after all.
Nick: dont you think yo uwould get used to it if its just the sae thing over and over >w>
forgotenscars: No. It's sorta beyond anything here. It's not just a mild prick on the finger. What did they say? 12,000 degrees? Heightened sensitivity? Endless pain of every kind?
Nick: yeah yeah. but heres a question: lets say i was right and god doesnt pay attention to us. then hwta happens when we die?
Nick: i jus want your opinion.
forgotenscars: I don't know.
Nick: fair enough.
Nick: *sighs.* this is such a dumb thing to think about all day.
forgotenscars: What is?
Nick: life, god, etc
forgotenscars: Well then don't. If you're okay with where your life is heading, do what you please. Enjoy what little time you have left.
Nick: i dont like where my life is heading. i just dunno what i can do.
forgotenscars: I already told you. You just have to find reason to believe. Or lack of reason. I figure it's best I don't share the truth with you quite yet.
Nick: >w> you're gonna hold out on me?
forgotenscars: Think about what I've said, then come back to me tomorrow.
Nick: fine..>w>